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Dreams and aphantasia

2 min readByjudah iam
Intriguingly, while aphantasics cannot summon mental imagery on demand, Zeman (the cognitive and behavioral neurologist who coined the word aphantasia) believes that: "Most aphantasics know what it's like to visualize, as they experience imagery in their dreams or as they dose off to sleep." This was confirmed by two World of Lucid Dreaming readers with aphantasia. This suggests that hypnagogic imagery and visualization close to the dreamstate draws on a different mechanism to daydreaming and visualizing during full wakefulness. However, some scientists have begun to refute this claim. What are your dreams like? Are there visual pictures in your dreamscape? Are they visual or narrative based? Are they in color or black and white? Do you remember them when you wake up? Can you visualize them? Do you recall the narratives? Are dreams enjoyable? Scary? Lucid? Anyone have hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations like I do? Anybody wish like me to go back to dreaming whenever and however possible because dreams are the only visualizations that you are ever able to experience in your mind? My dreams feel like the only place I have the ability to imagine. I can't visualize my dreams at all when I'm awake; it's like they turn from motion pictures to print books when the dream is over. Closing my eyes, I see nothing, unless I'm dreaming. No amount of imagining brings any sort of visualization to bear in my mind... What about you?
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Marie Smithrecentlyedited
I dream in full colour with sounds and sensations. I rarely remember my dreams but I can recall one particular dream that I had years ago. I was standing on the top of a mountain enjoying the view, I could smell the fresh air, I could feel the breeze on my face then I leaned forward and flew. I could smell the ground, sea and trees as I passed over them, I could feel the rushing of the wind about my body, I felt more alive than I had ever done. Then I woke up, back to the here and now, no inner vision, no relived senses just a memory that has stayed with me.
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Hello, I’m probably the youngest here to report about my Aphantasia, I can dream, but they usually only turn into nightmares, I can see images in my head when my eyes aren't closed no matter what I think about, my eyes have to be slightly or completely open in order for me to see anything. I honestly thought it was nothing and I was the only one, till I mentioned it to a friend and did some research. I think this makes us all unique and special in a majestic way.
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RD Valdes-Dapenarecentlyedited
My dreams generally are as colorful and detailed as the real world, though usually full of nonsensical and fantastical elements.  I remember some details when I wake up. Occasionally, sometime later in the day I will recall some details of a dream from the night before.  Someone once suggested that when I wake up I should write down what I remember from my dreams in order to gain some insights into myself and my life.  When I started it would take me only a minute or two to write down what I remembered.  After a few weeks I was remembering so much that I didn't have the time to write it all down. And since I wasn't finding any real value in the practice I gave it up. As an aside, when I go to bed I sometimes will get a brief mental image or hear an imagined sound.  That tells me I'm falling asleep; I just need to not let my awareness of it break the spell and jolt me back into wakefulness.  
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Dozza mrecentlyedited
I don't know about me, but I can't remember any time i've dreamt. I can't remember anything visual at all, sleeping or not. And I can't every recall dreaming visually
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judah iamrecentlyedited
Interesting. I have a variation, for example, when I wake up in the midst of a dream, I recall for a very short time. If I don't wake up in the middle of dreaming, and sleep until morning, I remember nothing, no thing at all. But I have medical reasons that wake me many times a night, so it feels normal for me to get glimpses of what I'm dreaming, long enough to form short snippets and remember bits and pieces. I wonder, because I think if I actually slept the night through normally, without interupption, if I'd recall anything at all. I doubt it. Thanks for your input, Geoffery. We all value it, here.
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Jay Srecentlyedited
I have very visual and sensory oriented dreams where I am able to smell, taste, hear, feel, almost like actually there in that moment. Sometimes I am even able to do things like play guitar even though I have no experience whatsoever with instruments. One time, I had a dream that was in black and white, in Japanese and in an anime style cartoon. I do not speak a lick of Japanese, nor do I know how to draw cartoons. How is this possible if I am phantasic?
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judah iamrecentlyedited
Once you wake up, though, can you visualize what you do when you are asleep? None of us seem to be able to do that. But many of us, when sleeping, visualize while dreaming, except the dream is remarkably different from how reality looks and feels, in a 'realer' way than waking reality, if that makes sense to you. Dreams, for me, are a place where anythying is possible, and it's more like watching a 3d movie in brighter color than reality, reality is drab and less vivid, and when I try to imagine, or picture something with my eyes closes, nothing. Darkness. Fuzzy, starry, blackness like an old tv with a bad connection, just fuzz. Thanks for your question! I hope that helps
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Anna Colerecentlyedited
I do have Dreams but not very often and they are usually symbolic in some way but I never see anythin I just feel it almost like I. Avatar and the last Airbender toph foot thing I don't have to stomp and nothing is outline I just feel it and I know that its there and know what color it is but I cant see all there is is black
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judah iamrecentlyedited
My dreams seem full color, full visual, but they seem like simply another reality, not a dream, and the moment I wake, they are gone and I cannot imagine them, can’t visualize at all, I can only ‘remember’ them, in a narrative sense, not bring up the image, not whatsoever… ‘all there is is black.’
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judah iamrecentlyedited
My dreams seem full color, full visual, but they seem like simply another reality, not a dream, and the moment I wake, they are gone and I cannot imagine them, can't visualize at all, I can only 'remember' them, in a narrative sense, not bring up the image, not whatsoever... 'all there is is black.'
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judah iamrecentlyedited
Hi thanks for your comment: I will quote you, "I can find some dreams confusing with real life, after Ive woken, that my memories and dreams can be hard to tell apart." This is so true! I have had dreams that I woke up from where I ran to look out my window and was confused that the dream was no longer 'real', the scariest ones are nightmares where I'm being chased or pursued by a group of individuals, or I'm with a few people who did something bad, like kill someone, and I wake up and I panick because I still think it is happening. How I know I'm aphantasic? Once I'm awake, I cannot picture what seemed real three seconds ago. It fades in less than one second. When they aren't bad dreams, but good ones, I often feel let down to wake up, and I try to go back to sleep to get 'back' the good dream. Sometimes it works, othertimes not. Regardless, the 'good' dreams seem MORE real than reality does, and more beautiful, more vivid, more colorful, sharper, and real life feels blurry, less colorful, dreary, and darker...
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David Ralphsrecentlyedited
Im similar, no visual or other sensory input, Im just "aware" of whats happening. If there is a specific person in my dream, I just know its them, I dont see or recognise them. Sometimes there is a person and its only later i will know its a perticular person. And that can change, they just become someone else. Its mostly like im reading a narrative, there is a plot, very few details and just general feeling of whats happening. Often they are anxiety based, the "one last exam and i havent studied" and thats after finishning university more than 30 years ago (and i rocked exams) I can find some dreams confusing with real life, after Ive woken, that my memories and dreams can be hard to tell apart. Classic example is I dream Ive misplaced my car keys, cant find them, panic etc. I will wake and maybe as im having breakfast a panic will hit - oh no, where are my keys, ive lost them. Then I look and they are exactly where they should be. BTW im aphantasic on all senses
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Liberty Benedictrecentlyedited
I score 1 on all the test questions there is nothing, however I have the most horrific nightmares and I know when I am having them I am seeing everything. When I wake I know what I saw but it would be impossible for me to visualize them. I just have the upsetting memory of them.
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judah iamrecentlyedited
Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel like when I have nightmares the reason they are so disturbing is that they seem real while they are occurring but they also seem real once I wake up, like in some other life, it happened, not just a dream. Thank you for your comment! It left me reflecting on how things seem... Not, or so it seems, just a dream, not just a dream, or so it feels, although, no. It was just a dream. It was a dream, not real. It's okay. Right? It's hard to convince myself sometimes that what I was just dreaming wasn't just happening...
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Madeline Lipkerecentlyedited
I have very vivid dreams. I can see my dreams very well while I'm asleep. When I'm awake, I can't see my dreams, I can only remember the details. It is very hard to explain to someone who is non-aphantasic, but I think that you and other people who have this can understand.
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Richard Stantonrecentlyedited
As someone who more recently discovered that I have aphantasia, I find that I have trouble answering this question. For me, while I do not normally remember my dreams, I do from time to time dream. I know this because I will sometimes remember the contents of the dream.. but now that I try to describe it, pictures of any sort do not enter the mix. The best way that I can describe how I dream is if I were to be reading a book wherein I myself am one of the characters, or as if I were somehow telling myself a story that I consciously did not write. Interestingly enough, though, these "dreams" can illicit emotional responses, but just like a good book that is artfully crafted can make me feel deeply as well. That is to say the words move me, but not a memory associated to those words. I notice that as I have gotten older I remember more and more of my dreams.. and I think that is partly due to the fact that I do not sleep as deeply as I once did, and as such those self narrated stories that do play out in my head are a few layers more shallow than they once were, and that much closer to the surface for my conscious mind to percieve.
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Roberto Rojasrecentlyedited
I'm pretty sure I dream with pictures, less sure about sound, I'm also don't think I see faces, I just kinda know who was involved but I don't remember seing faces. When I doze off I can see like remanents but I quicky lose them when I wake up. I rarely have nightmares, and many times I enjoy dreams that should be scary somehow; I still can remember an awesome dream I had years ago in which I was traped in a hounted house and other in which I was alone in an infested place with zombies; I remember clearly that they felt so interesting and fun and I even woke up smiling from both. I don't think is related to aphantasia but is weird and just came to me right now.
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phoebe kearnsrecentlyedited
I rarely dream, if at all, and when I do I can never remember what they were about. The only thing I can recall from my dreams is typically strong feelings/emotions.I also dream in color and with imagery, but I forget everything immediately upon waking.
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For me dreaming is rare and when it does happen it's like an audiobook just a narration of a story and when I wake up it ends mid sentence. There is no visual components and besides the mere minute or so trying to hang on to story all the memories is gone
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Helen Luisrecentlyedited
I do not remember my dreams. There are no images.
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Tamra Speakmanrecentlyedited
For the most part it seems like I dream the same way I imagine. Via thoughts, words, feelings, emotions, processes, actions, not images. That said I have had some very vivid visual black and white dreams that were scary to me. I overall do not rememeber a lot of dreams.
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judah iamrecentlyedited
"is there anyone with same problems?", I understand completely. I like your description. I try to enjoy my scary dreams now that I'm middle aged. They used to terrify me, especially when I was a child. I had night terrors for many years. Nowdays, I have several recurring 'nightmares' that I'm being chased, or that I'm with people who have for instance killed somebody, and are on the run or hiding, and it haunts my when I'm awake. When I was younger, I dreamed that I looked out the window and saw, in one dream, police digging up a body in the yard, and in antother dream, I saw an astroid coming down at my house. Those memories seem very real, as if I lived them. A few times I jumped out of bed and looked out the window, expecting to see an astroid, or police tape and forsenics experts working in my yard. However, I can't picture it when I close my eyes. It's more of a narrative that gets laced into my memory. Sometimes my dreams are so life-like seeming that when I wake up everything seems flat, and boring, and has an unreal quality to it. My vision seems not as clear, vivid, or 'real' as one of those dreams. Sometimes I dream I'm able to flly by mere intention, telepathicly, without doing anything, sort of like Superman. Those dreams are fun to have, and when I wake up from them, I feel disapointed they aren't real, and I want to go back to sleep and fly around some more. Those dreams also are bright and happy and I think they are in color. I just can't be certain, because I don't have any visual image of them after I wake up. It's hard to explain if you can picture things in your head what it's like to have a memory of a dream scene but no image of it... It seems counterintuitive, right? It sort of feels contradictory, too, emotionally. Sometimes I wish my dreams were real life and that my life was a dream because dreams feel more exciting and I actually feel more alive, if that makes any sense. As always, I thank you for your comment. You all are helping me to understand myself better.
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Başak Gençrecentlyedited
I usually have realy crazy dreams, they are weird but incredibly detailed. Sometimes they are scary and weird, but i dont remember having a normal dream or a dream with only images. theyre like a short movie also weird but in the same time very realistic. I know it sounds stupid but they are so realistic that i have big issues with them. sometimes my old dreams flash in my mind and i just cant notice that they were actually dreams or ive lived them in real life, it takes time to me to understand. its actually a big problem for me because it makes me feel like i did something i should do but irl i havent done that. its complicated... is there anyone with same problems?
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Hannah Laurenrecentlyedited
For me, I don't dream particularly often or atleast don't remember them very frequently. I find dreams to feel quite real, and especially when I experience negative dreams or some kind of emotional dream, when I wake up, it felt very real and I'm left feeling odd or teary.
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Winter Frostrecentlyedited
My dreams are a sensory overload. When I wake up I can recall sensations felt during the dream. Things like being burned alive, the wind and tears while falling, what it felt like upon impact of said fall.
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Tom Ebeyerrecentlyedited
That's very interesting; the only sensation I can recall clearly is flying or falling. I don't ever remember an impact, or what the more apocalyptic dreams 'feel' like. I wake up from those kinds of dreams(earthquakes, tsunamis) wondering why I didn't feel scared and why I wasn't running from danger like the other people in the dream were. But when I dream of being able to float, fly, or I dream I'm falling, I wake up with butterflies in my stomach like a rollercoaster loop leaves. Never wind, though, I'm jealous. I'd love to feel dream wind. Fire, not so much. Thanks for leaving a comment! I wish you only pleasant sensations.
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Laura Flaniganrecentlyedited
I dream very vividly and often. I am a lucid dreamer and dream in first person. I don’t have control over the dream but I always know that I am dreaming so they don’t scare me or bother me at all. When I wake up I can remember what happened but of course, can’t visualize it afterwards. The dreams feel almost as real as life since they are in the first person, much like life. I’ve always found life has a dream-like quality as a result.
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Tom Ebeyerrecentlyedited
You make a very good point that resonates with me. You say your dreams feel like real life and that real life seems dream like in some way. I completely relate to that. Apparently Australian Aborigines belief system holds that dreamtime is reality and awake life is the illusion; this way of looking at reality is such a fascinating reversal that I find it incredible to ponder. I also can't visualize dreams afterward. This makes dreaming a very alluring thing to spend time doing. When I know I've just been dreaming and wake up, I really, really want to go back and spend more time dreaming, regardless of whether it was a happy dream or more of a scary one. I find dreams are like what I would think virtual reality would be if it was perfectly indistinguishable from being awake and having full agency. When they end, it feels like a door slams shut on an incrediblely real world that seems visual, when I'm there at least, but when I wake up it's like it rolls up into a scroll and goes all black, or blank. Then being awake seems surreal and I stumble through daily life feeling half asleep, while in a dream I feel totally exhilarated, vibrant, and completely alert, with no sense of 'dreamyness' the plagues my waking life. That's very backwards seeming! Thanks for your comment it was very revealing and resonates with my experience. I don't usually have any awareness while I dream that I am dreaming, that's where I differ. I have tried to become aware, to coach myself to realize it but so far when I'm dreaming I don't think of it as a dream, and often I find myself thinking, this is so awesome! Where am I?! Not like I am lost, but rather it feels like I am certain that I want to return and so I'm trying in the dreamscape to figure out how I would get back and I'm aware that I don't have the fainist clue how I got there and I don't know where this world is... I keep thinking, how will I return? Where is this? But as to what is happening, I know exactly what is going on, there is a concrete sense of narrative. But when I wake up it evaporates leaving the sparsest of details. It's so fun!
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ANIKA BRKICrecentlyedited
My dreams are visual. I see pretty vividly in my dreams. When I try to think about the other senses, I can't reember if I have them in my dreams. It's wierd but I'm not sure if I have sounds and stuff in my dreams.
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Tom Ebeyerrecentlyedited
Good point, I have never recalled a sound of any sort in my dreams, but I did hear "dream" angels singing the moment I woke up once, so I must have been dreaming their vocalizations. It's like my dreams are silent films but the picture goes direct to memory and skips my visual processing center, like direct to DVD movies skip the cinema. I will check that out next dream - is there sound? Is there any sense of touch? I know there is a sense of motion when I'm flying or falling; like the feeling of dropping on a rollercoaster. That's quite thrilling and I always wake up feeling like I just rode a ride at the exhibition... thanks for your comments everybody! You're helping me understand my dreams and my aphantasiac life.
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