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Joined over 4 years agoI will be 70 in 2021. I am a lifelong visual aphantasiac (VVIQ score=16/80), but I dream while asleep or almost asleep, sometimes quite vividly. I do not hear, taste, or smell in my imagination either. But I can imagine pain--when I was a kid I dreaded going to the doctor in case I had to get a shot. I would feel the jab of the needle over and over, and it was always worse than the actual pain of the shot. I still don't like it, but I don't flinch an more. I have an internal dialogue, and can plan what I want to say or write silently. I have great difficulty recognizing faces. I am also visually impaired with a genetic condition that is progressive. My two siblings who are also visually impaired are also aphantasiac , and my siblings with normal vision are not, so I wonder if there is a causal connection. I have known I was different than most people since I was 19 (1971). I had a psychology professor who told a story about a girl coming out of her house, jumping down steps, crossing the road, climbing a fence, and running across a field. When he finished the story he asked "What color was her hair?" About half the class said blonde! Half the rest said brunette, and a few said red=-haired. 10-15% did not see any certain color. Many could tell you how many steps were on he house, what kind of fence the girl climbed over, how old she was, what she was wearing, what was growing in the field, what the sky looked like, etc. After several questions like this the teacher said "How many of you don't know what we're talking about?" Me and one other person across the room (there were about 100 students) raised our hands. He called it analog and digital imagery, and said it is on a spectrum. I have never been able to find any information on this condition until today. So glad to find this group!
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Joined over 4 years agoI will be 70 in 2021. I am a lifelong visual aphantasiac (VVIQ score=16/80), but I dream while asleep or almost asleep, sometimes quite vividly. I do not hear, taste, or smell in my imagination either. But I can imagine pain--when I was a kid I dreaded going to the doctor in case I had to get a shot. I would feel the jab of the needle over and over, and it was always worse than the actual pain of the shot. I still don't like it, but I don't flinch an more. I have an internal dialogue, and can plan what I want to say or write silently. I have great difficulty recognizing faces. I am also visually impaired with a genetic condition that is progressive. My two siblings who are also visually impaired are also aphantasiac , and my siblings with normal vision are not, so I wonder if there is a causal connection. I have known I was different than most people since I was 19 (1971). I had a psychology professor who told a story about a girl coming out of her house, jumping down steps, crossing the road, climbing a fence, and running across a field. When he finished the story he asked "What color was her hair?" About half the class said blonde! Half the rest said brunette, and a few said red=-haired. 10-15% did not see any certain color. Many could tell you how many steps were on he house, what kind of fence the girl climbed over, how old she was, what she was wearing, what was growing in the field, what the sky looked like, etc. After several questions like this the teacher said "How many of you don't know what we're talking about?" Me and one other person across the room (there were about 100 students) raised our hands. He called it analog and digital imagery, and said it is on a spectrum. I have never been able to find any information on this condition until today. So glad to find this group!
I am able to tune out the rest of the world, even when there are distractions present. People say I am daydreaming, but I do not see any visual images. I don't hear, smell or taste anything either. Sometimes I can "imagine" tactile feelings, especially a sense of floating or moving around. I think in complete thoughts, but not like you describe. It is more conceptually driven. But when I am asleep I sometimes dream, occasionally quite vividly. Usually these night-time dreams are silent, and flickering wildly like watching a music video switch quickly from scene to scene with the volume turned off. But sometimes I talk to people in my dreams, and they talk back. VERY different from "daydreaming."
Yes, but usually only when I am severely sleep deprived. I have entered the REM stage, that usually occurs a few hours after going to sleep, while I was still awake. My eyes were fluttering and I was seeing dream-like images while trying to study. (I am one of those aphantasiacs who dream, sometimes quite vividly.) For me it's usually when going to sleep (hynogogig), but occasionally it has been when waking up, especially if I had fitful sleep and did not feel rested (hypnopompic). Once it happened when I was doing mindfulness meditation. I saw a demonic face staring at me for a second or two. Scared me! So now if I am really tired I just go to sleep or relax awhile instead. I do my meditation when I can focus on my surroundings. I can't do gided meditations where you imagine relaxing scenes, so I was very glad to discover mindfulness. :)
I am able to tune out the rest of the world, even when there are distractions present. People say I am daydreaming, but I do not see any visual images. I don't hear, smell or taste anything either. Sometimes I can "imagine" tactile feelings, especially a sense of floating or moving around. I think in complete thoughts, but not like you describe. It is more conceptually driven. But when I am asleep I sometimes dream, occasionally quite vividly. Usually these night-time dreams are silent, and flickering wildly like watching a music video switch quickly from scene to scene with the volume turned off. But sometimes I talk to people in my dreams, and they talk back. VERY different from "daydreaming."
Yes, but usually only when I am severely sleep deprived. I have entered the REM stage, that usually occurs a few hours after going to sleep, while I was still awake. My eyes were fluttering and I was seeing dream-like images while trying to study. (I am one of those aphantasiacs who dream, sometimes quite vividly.) For me it's usually when going to sleep (hynogogig), but occasionally it has been when waking up, especially if I had fitful sleep and did not feel rested (hypnopompic). Once it happened when I was doing mindfulness meditation. I saw a demonic face staring at me for a second or two. Scared me! So now if I am really tired I just go to sleep or relax awhile instead. I do my meditation when I can focus on my surroundings. I can't do gided meditations where you imagine relaxing scenes, so I was very glad to discover mindfulness. :)